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Neglify
03-07-2012, 02:05 PM
http://www.slashfilm.com/topher-grace-edited-star-wars-prequels-85minute-movie/

According to the article, actor Topher Grace (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0333410/) is a huge geek and recently made a 3-in-1 Star Wars Prequel Edit.

You can read the above article to get a description of his cutlist and Peter Sciretta's opinions of it.

Also of note:

- Before his edit screened he showed a trailer for his next FanEdit: Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

- "Grace hopes that other actors, editors and filmmakers will run with the ball, produce and showcase remixed films on a annual basis within this private community."

QuickCut
03-07-2012, 02:10 PM
Woah! That is so cool! :-)

onanboy
03-07-2012, 02:31 PM
Woah! That is so cool! :-)

What are the chances that this will leak out to us here? 25%, 75%, 100%??

I hope so, anybody geeky enough to spend there valuable time in such an activity must have friends in the community that will help get it to the masses that care.

elbarto1
03-07-2012, 03:40 PM
I hope he edits better than he acts.
Whammy.

purplenurple
03-07-2012, 04:11 PM
I'd love to see what he did with the prequels. From what they mention in the article, it sounds like he made some fairly solid choices (though obviously most of them have been done before by other fan editors).

Also, a Close Encounters edit? Cool!

Gatos
03-07-2012, 04:18 PM
Bah! You beat me to it Neg!

Roy Anderson
03-07-2012, 05:21 PM
There are plenty of articles out there about this, but here's one http://www.slashfilm.com/topher-grace-edited-star-wars-prequels-85minute-movie/

This version of the first 3 episodes sounds phenominal and while we're probably never going to see Topher's version, I was wondering if any of you know of a similar version (all 3 edited into 1, having some of the plot changes mentioned in the article) that has already been done? :)

Thanks

Roy Anderson
03-07-2012, 06:46 PM
I didn't see this post until now and posted about this over in the Fan Edit Ideas forum, hoping that someone has done something similar... Have they? :-/

I'd love to watch a 3-in-1 version that has the plot changes mentioned in the article!

njvc
03-07-2012, 09:22 PM
Nice! would have been great if any of those discussing Topher's edit referenced this site, but oh well...

For those who have already started editing a 3 in 1, maybe some good ideas can come from the detailed description!

megafat
03-07-2012, 09:49 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing his version of the movie. He should upload it somewhere, like a website for fanedits *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*. If he actually became involved with fanediting, at least with 2 or 3 movie, it would be nice to have some weight behind fanediting with an established actor. And he's not that bad of an actor.

reave
03-07-2012, 10:43 PM
Cool. If he would just release his cut list it could easily be reproduced.

QuickCut
03-07-2012, 10:53 PM
Although his basic structure looks very solid, it looks like his changes to the dialogue were minimal and could be improved on.

bondukkevin
03-08-2012, 02:24 AM
I am working on an edit of all 3, similar to this one I have cut out most of Episode I and it focuses on Anakin's fall in IMO a more realistic fashion. I had to include the fear of losing Padme to give him motivation to turn to the dark side but mine also includes Anakin staying with Palpatine once he learns he is a Sith Lord and the Jedi realising Palpatine is a Sith Lord rather than Anakin tellign them. Also I haev eliminated Grievous etc.

If you would like a full list please see my previous threads or PM me for the list and if you want to see a workprint version I will be uploading a new version soon.

thanks

Neglify
03-08-2012, 02:30 AM
There are plenty of articles out there about this, but here's one http://www.slashfilm.com/topher-grace-edited-star-wars-prequels-85minute-movie/

This version of the first 3 episodes sounds phenominal and while we're probably never going to see Topher's version, I was wondering if any of you know of a similar version (all 3 edited into 1, having some of the plot changes mentioned in the article) that has already been done? http://www.fanedit.org/forums/images/smilies/Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_15.gif

Thanks

Welcome to the forums Roy!

I moved this thread to "General FE Discussions" because it seemed like a more appropriate place.

And to answer your question, there are a few "3-in-1" prequel edits.

Star Wars: Rise of the Empire (http://fanedit.org/327/) by Lewis886
Star Wars: The Fall of the Republic (http://fanedit.org/248/) by BlankFist
Star Wars: Shadows of the Old Republic (http://fanedit.org/8997/) by JasonN

Of those 3, the only one I saw was Shadows of the Old Republic by JasonN. I thought it was very entertaining. I read the slashfilm article you linked and think it's fantastic. I would love to have a chance to see his cut of the prequels.

TMBTM
03-08-2012, 06:39 AM
Just to have the video on this thread:


http://vimeo.com/38080625

Roy Anderson
03-08-2012, 08:31 AM
@bondukkevin - Send me an email/private message when you're done and I'll (and my son as well, probably) give it a viewing and give you some feedback!

@neglify - Thanks for those recommendations! I will give the shortest one a viewing and go from there. :) Much appreciated.

Q2
03-08-2012, 08:54 AM
I'm actually going to move this thread one more time, to the News article section. :) Sorry Neg.

reave
03-08-2012, 10:28 AM
Hey Topher, feel free to send me a private message with your cutlist.

mrbenja0618
03-08-2012, 10:52 AM
Just to have the video on this thread:


http://vimeo.com/38080625

You know, Kyle made some strong arguments for the prequels; while I think his midichlorian explanation was weak, and I still think you need a Han Solo type... He still makes a strong argument for why there is no Solo type. But I think we all agree the films would have been far greater with a Solo.

I'd like to see the edit, but based on what was said about it, I feel I've already seen better work. But I'd still like to take a look. If for anything to see Topher skill.

QuickCut
03-08-2012, 02:56 PM
Hey Topher, feel free to send me a private message with your cultist.

Cultist? :lol:

ssj
03-08-2012, 07:13 PM
so which one of you is this guy? ;-)

ImperialFighter
03-08-2012, 09:14 PM
It seems that Topher 'Venom' Grace has come up with quite a radical re-arrangement of the 'Star Wars' prequels then... :)

From nearly 7 hours worth of footage, to just 85 minutes long! That's pretty bold, no matter the result.

Anyway, in addition to the 'Slashfilm' link that's been shown, here's a couple of others which cover some of the cuts that were done for his 'private viewing' -

http://collider.com/topher-grace-star-wars-prequels/150596/


http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/video-blog-topher-graces-85-minute-cut-of-the-star-wars-prequels/

Strange that he wants to fiddle around with the already great 'Close Encounters Of The Third Kind' next though, considering there's certain other titles that could REALLY do with being re-worked instead.

Such as 'Spider-man 3' for one... ;-)

Neglify
03-08-2012, 11:51 PM
I'm actually going to move this thread one more time, to the News article section. :) Sorry Neg.

:( Now I got to go and edit my post so it makes sense.

nightstalkerpoet
03-09-2012, 02:48 PM
i'm convinced Neglify is Topher :-P

nOmArch
03-09-2012, 03:08 PM
A tenner says it leaks in the next couple of months.

MrGone
03-09-2012, 06:10 PM
I didn't see this post until now and posted about this over in the Fan Edit Ideas forum, hoping that someone has done something similar... Have they? :-/

I'd love to watch a 3-in-1 version that has the plot changes mentioned in the article!

Yea, I made a post about it earlier too, having not seen the article on the front page.

Felt like an idiot after hearing about it. :oops:

Neglify
03-09-2012, 10:30 PM
i'm convinced Neglify is Topher :-P

If his edit sucks hard you may have a good argument there.

QuickCut
03-09-2012, 10:48 PM
Hm... I guess probably not.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4406/66186495.png

Neglify
03-09-2012, 10:59 PM
Hm... I guess probably not.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4406/66186495.png

Yeah, either Topher got real fat or that pic of Neg is a fake!

QuickCut
03-09-2012, 11:23 PM
Let me clarify.

...................NEGLIFY........................ .....................TOPHER...................
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4406/66186495.png

Neglify
03-09-2012, 11:50 PM
Let me clarify.

...................NEGLIFY........................ .....................TOPHER...................
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4406/66186495.png

Now there are two of them.

Roy Anderson
03-10-2012, 12:34 PM
The dude on the right is far from fat.

Now, this dude is fat:
http://mikegattoisasweetdude.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/fit4041_naked-fat-guy.jpg

Neglify
03-10-2012, 12:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-NrPOMBKnw

Roy Anderson
03-10-2012, 12:37 PM
:( Now I got to go and edit my post so it makes sense.

I'm in the same boat lol. The Mod should have moved it, but left it a separate thread so it makes sense. One thread is about the news, the other (mine) is about a request for opinions on a good 3-in-1. Different topics.

Neglify
03-10-2012, 12:38 PM
I'm in the same boat lol. The Mod should have moved it, but left it a separate thread so it makes sense. One thread is about the news, the other (mine) is about a request for opinions on a good 3-in-1. Different topics.

Oh well. No big deal really.

WyndorfDave
03-13-2012, 09:02 AM
Ugh I need to see this edit! Topher Grace is the man! May the TRUE force with you.

TomH1138
03-13-2012, 01:57 PM
Awesome! I wish I could see this. I wasn't the big Topher Grace fan, but this sounds awesome.

Also, I haven't listened to that debate, but every time I've heard Kyle Newman talk about the prequels, he comes across like an arrogant, defensive idiot. :-/ He may be nice in everyday life, but every time I hear him ranting about the "untouchable masterpieces" of the prequels, I wanna shake some sense into him.

Granted, he had his own film (Fanboys) massively recut by the studio, so maybe that's where his pain comes from. If I had that happen to me, maybe I'd feel the same way, too.

98766654321
03-14-2012, 04:41 AM
So I can only assume that someone has taken a look at the three articles, and is considering trying to put it together? If not, can they? I really want to see this and I have my doubts about it leaking.

ImperialFighter
03-14-2012, 06:54 AM
While there's not enough info. available to match the exact same edits done for Topher's 'The Editor Strikes Back' version, I reckon there's enough descriptions in the 3 different 'review' links for someone to come up with a reasonably similar kind of overall '3-in-1' structure as he did.

Although I have my own preferences for how the individual 'Prequels' could be re-cut, seeing a 'single movie' version that opens with the Darth Maul duel would be pretty neat I guess, and I'm sure there's plenty who would like to see a 'single prequel movie' version like this...especially since it removes 'young' Anakin altogether!

TomH1138
03-14-2012, 07:27 PM
Strange that he wants to fiddle around with the already great 'Close Encounters Of The Third Kind' next though, considering there's certain other titles that could REALLY do with being re-worked instead.

Yeah, that one threw me for a minute, too, since it's already a much celebrated film.

But I think the trick is that there's a ton of available footage to work from. He was working with 7 hours of footage for the prequels. With Close Encounters, there's the original 1977 version, the network TV version, the Special Edition that goes inside the spacecraft, the combined footage from all previous editions, the Willy Wonka edition, etc., etc. ;-)

So that gives Topher a wide playing field to work with again.

It's also probably a favorite film of his that he's very familiar with, which is necessary to do a good edit. I've occasionally thought of doing a cut of Independence Day, for instance, but I don't know that movie well enough. I would need to know it forwards and backwards to do a pretty good cut. Plus, I'm only working with the original movie plus maybe a couple of deleted scenes. So now I can kind of see where Topher is coming from. :)

TomH1138
03-14-2012, 07:31 PM
While there's not enough info. available to match the exact same edits done for Topher's 'The Editor Strikes Back' version, I reckon there's enough descriptions in the 3 different 'review' links for someone to come up with a reasonably similar kind of overall '3-in-1' structure as he did.

Yeah, I was thinking pretty much the same thing. These are great articles, but there's no way for any of them to be detailed enough to tell us exactly what to cut to re-create the film. (I wouldn't expect them to be.)

We'll just have to settle for the great choices we have here, for now, and wait until (or if) we get Topher's version. :)

mrbenja0618
03-16-2012, 01:20 PM
A tenner says it leaks in the next couple of months.

I want this to happen.