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    Prometheus - Alien Prequel [2012] (SPOILERS!)

    http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/06/09/...l-erik-rinsch/

    Last month is was revealed that commercial director
    Carl Erik Rinsch was attached to direct a remake of Alien. We have since learned that it is more of a prequel than a remake. I was one of the few people actually interested in Rinsch's involvement. Rinsch's commercials show an amazing sense of imagination, visual effects artistry and composition (we've profiled his amazing commercials on the site). Ridley Scott is said to be involved with producing the sequel, which leads us to believe it, at very least, has to be better than the last two Alien vs. Predator films. But apparently 20th Century Fox isn't happy with the choice of director.

    According to Entertainment Weekly (via playlist), Fox has yet to approve Rinsch for the prequel, even though Tony and Ridley Scott have given the filmmaker final approval. Fox apparently wants Ridley to return to helm the movie, which seems very unlikely at this point. To complicate things further, EW claims that Rinsch is not only Scott's protege, a commercial director for Scott's company RSA, but he is also romantically involved with Ridley's daughter Jordan. So basically, he's "in the family."

    I'm not sure that Rinsch will produce an Alien film on the level of Scott's original or James Cameron's sequel, but I do know that he's better than 99% of other possible choices. Fox needs to learn to give their "artists" more creative control. The movie studio's constant "micro-managing" and "second guessing" has been blamed for the studio's trail of lackluster film releases.

    seems like a good horse to bet on, and with the Scott's at the helm of the ship, why not just step back and see what the talented artists might develop?
    FOX :P
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    Re: Alien Remake/Prequel/Whatever

    As long as this is not a remake but a prequel (I heard about a story with the creature aboard the lost ship from the original movie) and as long Scott is on board (one way on an other), I think I have still interest in this movie. But I'm not expecting a second coming. Wait and see.

    The only problem with prequel is that we usualy know how it ends. A prequel needs a very good script (well, any movie needs a good script, but a prequel even more).
    Strangely I'm exited by the Rodriguez reboot/remake of Predator because I'm sure it will be fun, not too serious, and "something else". But I can't see how a good remake of Alien can be done. So a prequel, if done well, why not.

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    (from ain it cool news): Sources at Fox, however, tell EW that the studio is not interested in greenlighting a prequel unless [Ridley] Scott himself directs.
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    Re: Alien Remake/Prequel/Whatever

    Quote Originally Posted by TMBTM
    The only problem with prequel is that we usualy know how it ends.
    Everybody knew how Titanic ended. It still went on to become the biggest box office hit of all time.
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    Re: Alien Remake/Prequel/Whatever

    Quote Originally Posted by blueyoda
    Quote Originally Posted by TMBTM
    The only problem with prequel is that we usualy know how it ends.
    Everybody knew how Titanic ended. It still went on to become the biggest box office hit of all time.
    Yes, but the script was smart enough to play with this. And having the scientists even showing the audience how the Titanic ends (in the case some people did not know!) step by step on animated CG is a great trick that even rise the tension at the end of the movie, because the audience totaly understand what happens, and what will happen next, and in what shit the characters really are.

    An Alien prequel (if it's a spooky atmospheric SF movie, as I hope it will be, and not an action packed film) needs to find a way to be scary (or at least interesting) for those who already saw the first Alien movies, but it also needs not to ruins the original 1979 movie experience for the audience that would see this prequel before...
    I'd like, for once, a prequel that could be seen before the original movie. What about the story of the lost ship on the planet? No humans in the entire movie. Just space creatures (speaking their own language with subtitles). I'd pay for that if done well. And it saves the "humans vs Alien" plot for the original movie. (although no humans in a movie could end being not so interesting... I don't know. Cool on paper, but tricky to do.)
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    Re: Alien Remake/Prequel/Whatever

    I'd like, for once, a prequel that could be seen before the original movie. What about the story of the lost ship on the planet? No humans in the entire movie. Just space creatures (speaking their own language with subtitles). I'd pay for that if done well. And it saves the "humans vs Alien" plot for the original movie. (although no humans in a movie could end being not so interesting... I don't know. Cool on paper, but tricky to do.)
    This is EXACTLY what I wanted to see from AvP, alas the major studios (especially FOX) will never make such a gutsy move. They all want human characters we can "relate to" and "sympathize with"...(pizza boys? m.i.rite )

    Wall-e proves we dont need an english speaking human to accomplish this.
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    Re: Alien Remake/Prequel/Whatever

    Quote Originally Posted by elbarto1
    I'd like, for once, a prequel that could be seen before the original movie. What about the story of the lost ship on the planet? No humans in the entire movie. Just space creatures (speaking their own language with subtitles). I'd pay for that if done well. And it saves the "humans vs Alien" plot for the original movie. (although no humans in a movie could end being not so interesting... I don't know. Cool on paper, but tricky to do.)
    This is EXACTLY what I wanted to see from AvP, alas the major studios (especially FOX) will never make such a gutsy move. They all want human characters we can "relate to" and "sympathize with"...(pizza boys? m.i.rite )
    And, without fail, we end up with shallow, badly written characters who no-one gives a stuff about. They're just cannon fodder.

    Wall-e proves we dont need an english speaking human to accomplish this.
    Agreed.

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    Re: Ridley Scott to direct Alien Remake/Prequel/Whatever?!

    Variety says Ridley is back in the Alien saddle.

    *jumping around the room like a fool* Oh please jebus, let this be fact.

    http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...goryid=13&cs=1

    Twentieth Century Fox is resuscitating its "Alien" franchise. The studio has hired Jon Spaihts to write a prequel that has Ridley Scott attached to return as director.

    Spaihts got the job after pitching the studio and Scott Free, which will produce the film.

    The film is set up to be a prequel to the groundbreaking 1979 film that Scott directed. It will precede that film, in which the crew of a commercial towing ship returning to Earth is awakened and sent to respond to a distress signal from a nearby planetoid. The crew discovers too late that the signal generated by an empty ship was meant to warn them.

    The deal gives Fox another chance to keep the "Alien" franchise alive. There were three sequels to Scott's original, but it is the first time the director has set his mind on directing one.

    Spaihts has become a go-to-guy for space thrillers. After Keanu Reeves became attached to his Warner Bros. sci-fi script "Shadow 19," Reeves hired Spaihts to write the space journey epic "Passengers," which is berthed at Morgan Creek. That script got Spaihts the meeting with Fox and Scott Free, and he won the job with an "Alien" reboot take that the studio and Scott loved.

    Fox has separately hired him to rewrite "The Darkest Hour," which Timur Bekmambetov to produce with Tom Jacobson. Spaihts is writing "Children of Mars" for Disney and Scott Rudin, and he will follow by rewriting "St. George and the Dragon" for Sony and Red Wagon.


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    Re: Ridley Scott to direct Alien Remake/Prequel/Whatever?!

    What shape should this prequel take?
    ALIEN was a haunted house, ALIENS was a war film, ALIEN3 was a prison movie and ALIEN RESURRECTION was FIREFLY.
    Without rehashing all the previous versions, what should the prequel be?
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    Re: Ridley Scott to direct Alien Remake/Prequel/Whatever?!

    I dont know and I dont really care - sure Ridley has slipped off his A-game in recent years but I just cant bear another lousy alien film. also, if its a prequel he is free to go in almost any direction w/o having to adhere to the continuity established in the sequels. He can also finally break free of the 'Ripley factor'. I like Sigourney as much as the next guy but we dont need her in every goddamn Alien film!

    That said I can even tolerate Alien Resurrection but its been 12 years (17 since a decent film 23 since a great film) and all we have seen are 2 weaksauce spinoffs. its high time for a talented director with a reputable track record to step up and deliver a quality Alien film again.

    'Predators' could go either way but if Ridley helms this, I can rest easy - even if its next to impossible to create something as memorable and lasting as the original and/or the rest of his early work.

    I cant get too excited as FOX has destroyed all my faith in them but I really hope this is fact.
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    Re: Ridley Scott to direct Alien Remake/Prequel/Whatever?!

    Here's Ridley's filmography:

    Body of Lies (2008) didnt see it.
    American Gangster (2007) s'aright.
    A Good Year (2006) didnt see it.
    Kingdom of Heaven (2005) ?boring
    Matchstick Men (2003) couldnt finish it.
    Black Hawk Down (2001) great.
    Hannibal (2001) why Sir Anthony, why?
    Gladiator (2000) ?cartoony.
    G.I. Jane (1997) cartoony.
    White Squall (1996) boring.
    1492: Conquest of Paradise (1992) pourquoi Gérard pourquoi?
    Thelma & Louise (1991)? good the first time.
    Black Rain (1989/I) cartoony.
    Someone to Watch Over Me (1987) boring.
    Legend (1985) Tom Cruise? really?
    ?Blade Runner (1982) great.

    A lot of films granted. But really, except for BladeRunner and Black Hawk Down, hardly a reputable track record.
    Be honest, did you even watch A Good Year (2006)? :P
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